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These are the exact reasons my car is now 28 years old. It's not like I can't afford a new one but I want a vehicle, not a piece of malware on wheels.


2006 Lexus IS350, 2007 Toyota Avalon, 2010 Toyota Venza. My in-laws have a 2000 4Runner that I still need to drive into the ground, but I'm not sure if I will be able to do it since it refuses to die (325k miles). All the vehicles are immaculate and have at least a decade or more left in them. I plan to drive them all, as long as they continue to sell gasoline.


I have a 2011 Subaru Forrester. It has 5 on the floor. Once when I pulled up to the post office I took it out of gear and pulled the parking brake. A fellow had pulled up right next to me just then. He asked me "Is that a manual? I thought I heard a parking brake!" I answered in the affirmative. He offered to trade me his Jeep Wagoneer straight up, no questions. I politely declined.

I don't know what business car manufacturers think they're in. Finance? Data brokers? Social media? Someone needs to get back to making cars.


That 4Runner will be a heirloom. Those things are in ever sense of the word indestructible unless you start plowing into concrete walls or something like that. Just regular use will most likely not kill it as long as there is oil and coolant in it.


> not a piece of malware on wheels

Indeed. Aside from price, this is why I will never own a new car, or anything newer than roughly 2015 or so (depends on manufacturer). A car must absolutely not have any internet phone-home spyware connectivity.


What do you drive if you do t mind me asking? Fellow older car driver here. I have a 91 Mustang.




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