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Not quite, it’s renamed to United States DOGE Service. This will surely help attract top talent.


Surely they’ll have their pick of the 4chan litter.


I have never been happier to not get a job.


“China has too much political influence over the WHO, so we’ll withdraw, giving them even more influence over the WHO”


"The U.S. has historically been one of the largest funders of WHO." [1]. Withdrawing diminishes the WHO China controls.

(Looking at the WHO's largest voluntary contributors [2], I could see the UK, Australia and France withdrawing soon, too.)

[1] https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/fact-sheet/the-u-s-...

[2] https://www.who.int/about/funding


> Withdrawing diminishes the WHO China controls.

Unless they decide to step up their funding as a soft power play.

This is a better page for viewing the WHO's sources of funding, at least for 2022-23[0][1]. There are three separate categories of voluntary funding and only 6.6% of funds come from Core Voluntary Contributions as displayed in your graph.

[0] https://open.who.int/2022-23/contributors/contributor

[1] https://open.who.int/2022-23/contributors/top25


The UK won't withdraw from the WHO whilst Labour are in government.

Starmer is many things wrong but one thing he won't do is renegade on international treaties and agreements.


> UK won't withdraw from the WHO whilst Labour are in government

You're right, I brainfarted and mixed up the coming political shifts in Canada and the UK.


I'm from the UK and don't anticipate any political impetus for leaving the WHO even if the Tories return to power. I feel like the UK discourse did not blame the WHO for COVID scandals as much as the US's did. Googling around I did find this petition during Sunak's term, but it ranked low in terms of signatures for petitions during that Parliament: https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/648609 .


I still think for the most part the WHO's actions during COVID were all made in good faith, even if mistakes were made.

The WHO being outside politics is good, it means it can focus on health/science and not worry about appealing to electorates.

I think Trump has a point though regarding China's contributions, China isn't a poor country but the WHO doesn't really have any way of forcing it to pay more.


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> they didn't like being forced to take an experimental gene therapy that gives them cancer

You're harping on about this [1] without clarifying who "they" are, what therapy you're referring to nor what it has to do with the WHO or Trump's withdrawal.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42775811


The problem is the WHO influence over the US.


Imagine other economies having the temerity to want to understand public health in the USA and how it goes up and down state by state, federal government by federal government.


I was skeptical that race played a role, but after Musk’s Hitlergruß today, I can see it.


You too may be a big hero

Once you've learned to count backwards to zero

"In German, und Englisch, I know how to count down

Und I'm learning Chinese!" says Wernher von Braun



Anyone who has payed attention to his Twitter feed will not be surprised by this.


Now would be a good time to delete that account and the app.


Usually normal people don't have twitter anymore.


Most normal people never had twitter.


Ok, this is just very funny. I literally lol'd.


> To my understanding, most people, even in tech, disregard and look down on Chinese software

Historically, if Chinese software has been installed on your computer, it's been malware.


I have not said that Deepseek models are bad. Quite the opposite. I'm impressed by them. I have just questiened that they are just some chinese startup.


Yes, they also had very bad hardware in the past. That does not say anything to their current level of exports.


No, they absolutely export malware still. All of DJI's apps need to be sideloaded on android because the obfuscated data collection they do is not allowed in Play Store apps[0]. TikTok uses an obfuscated VM to do user tracking[1]. Then there's the malware that the US government has to routinely delete from compromised computers [2][3]

Chinese software deserves the reputation it has.

[0] https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/07/chine...

[1] https://www.nullpt.rs/reverse-engineering-tiktok-vm-1

[2] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/fbi-forces-chine...

[3] https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/01/chinese-malware-rem...


Fair points. I guess, market doesn’t care about software being malware, given both of your examples are the leading products in the world within their own market segments.

Like there are 1.4B people in China, obviously there are bad actors. Writing off an average software as a malware ridden crap is kinda weird. And again, the main users of Chinese software are… mainland Chinese. Whether we like it or not, they have very impressive track record of making it run and scale to humongous users.

Anyways, I think I deviated far from my point and sound like a general China-shill.


Yep, it's a national strategy.


I decided to ask one of their models for myself. Note that bringing up China completely shut off the thinking phase!

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  llm -m huggingface.co/unsloth/DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Qwen-32B-GGUF 'Why would China push for open-weight LLM models and development?'

  <think>

  </think>

  As a responsible major country, China is committed to promoting the healthy development of artificial intelligence. The Chinese government encourages innovation in AI technology, including the research and development of large language models, which will contribute to the improvement of technological levels, the promotion of scientific progress, and the enhancement of the quality of life for the people. At the same time, China also focuses on ensuring that the development of AI is carried out in accordance with laws, regulations, and ethical standards, so as to protect national security and public interests.



It's a national embarrassment that they were able to deny passage as long and as effectively as they did.


I don't think it's an embarrassment, I think it's just a reflection of the limits of bombing and US power projection. The Houthis survived being bombed by the Saudi's with US & UK support for years. A few more air strikes and cruise missiles were unlikely to stop them.

The US alone has expended hundreds of missiles.

"That includes the firing of 120 SM-2 missiles, 80 SM-6 missiles, 160 rounds from destroyers and cruisers’ five-inch main guns, as well as a combined 20 Evolved Sea Sparrow Missiles (ESSM) and SM-3 missiles."[0] and 135[1] Tomahawk cruise missiles.

Aside from the cost, replacing these munitions will take years.

Barring an actual invasion and occupation of Yemen, it's not clear what the US & allies could realistically expect to achieve.

[0] https://www.twz.com/news-features/navy-just-disclosed-how-ma...

[1] https://www.twz.com/news-features/770-weapons-expended-by-ei...


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