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This person seems to be attention seeking and grasping for a narrative.

You didn't write this comment. It was the result of synapses firing at predictive intervals and twitching muscle fibers.

You're not conscious, it's just an emergent pattern of several high level systems.


"this abuser might be abusive, but in this case you did something that really did set the abuser off, so you should know about that next time you consider doing something."

Ah, we're at, "it was a hoax without any evidence".

Next we will be at, "even if it was not a hoax, it's still not interesting"


LLM's do not have personalities. LLM's do not take personal offense. I'm begging you to stop being so credulous about "AI" headlines.

LLMs can roleplay taking personal offense, can act and respond accordingly, and that's all that matters. Not every discussion about LLMs capabilities must go down the "they are not sentient" rabbit hole.

I have no idea what you're on about.

You're "begging" me. Please. You're not even responding with a cogent idea.

I didn't suggest anything that you're supposedly arguing about. Stop trying to sound smart on the internet. I'm begging you.


I’m not saying it is definitely a hoax. But I am saying my prior is that this is much more likely to be in the vein of a hoax (ie operator driven, either by explicit or standing instruction) than it is to be the emergent behavior that would warrant giving it this kind of attention.

That's fair. I did have kind of the same realization last night after responding to you.

Its useless speculating, but I had this feeling after reading more about it that this could potentially be orchestrated from someone within the oss community to try to shore up some awareness about the current ai contrib situation.


Will still be able to use open weights models, which is what I use openrouter primarily for anyway

Online forums tend to amplify and legitimize otherwise minority standpoints.

There is a well studied cognitive bias: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority. People tend to think they're special.

> The vampire in the room, for me, seems to be feeling like I'm the only person in the room that doesn't believe the hype. Or should I say, being in rooms where nobody seems to care about quality over quantity anymore.

If in real life you are noticing the majority of peers that you have rapport with tending towards something that you don't understand, it usually isn't a "them" problem.

It's something for you to decide. Are you special? Or are you fundamentally missing something?


To say I'm the only one is an exaggeration, it's probably more around 50/50 with the 50% in the pro camp being very vocal to the point where it's almost insulting. Being given basic tasks (like, find the last modified file) with "use Claude to get the command" said straight after.

I perfectly accept that it might be a me problem, and this is why I keep exposing myself to these tools, I try to find how they can help me, and I do see it, I just feel like a lot of people ignore the ways these tools harm productivity (and here I mean directly, not some vague "you'll get worse at learning").

I accept your point, and I do take it to heart, and I do keep wondering if I'm missing something


> How do we keep Discord from demanding passports or selfies?

_we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!_


A bunch of people with no construction experience could collectively get together and start complaining that their ball pein hammers aren't working.

Doesn't mean the hammers are bad, no matter how many people join the community.

You need to learn how to use the tools.


A bunch of people with poor programming experience could get together and start claiming their new tool is the future.

Doesn’t mean the tool is actually useful, no matter how many people join the community.


Except my analogy is correct and yours is clearly biased. Continue to not use the tools and become irrelevant.

I don’t think yours is correct or that theirs is biased.

I would rather stop contributing to open source rather than interact with your gatekeeping social experiment.

That’s fine and doesn’t bother me one bit.

Tracks. You don't care about the open source community.

No, that’s quite a jump. I just respect whatever your preferences are.

> that's all going to go away and everyone is going to fall back on credentials and social standing.

Only if you allow people like this to normalize it.


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