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They can also classify it as restricted data -- like nuclear weapons technology.

Sure, there will be a court battle, but I don't think these companies want to take that chance. They'll capitulate after the lawyers realize that option is on the table.


> They'll capitulate after the lawyers realize that option is on the table.

Hopefully their lawyers read HN comments so they can negotiate with your deeper understanding of the legal landscape.


> They can also classify it as restricted data -- like nuclear weapons technology.

Nuclear weapons technology is restricted under very specific legislative authority, where is the corresponding authority that could be selectively applied to a particular vendors AI models or services?


agreed but the current administration is pretty adept at using the slimmest margin for justification and benefiting from the fact that the legal process playing out over years is extremely detrimental to everyone but the government


EDA software, software to design computer chips in general, has been classified as ITAR now under this administration. Trump can do that to AI.


The argument "we need AI because China" is principally a national security argument, but it has been used as a motte-and-bailey for commercial use of AI.

This motte-and-bailey argument is finally dead, thanks entirely to the supreme arrogance of a few AI companies that think they're going to beat the US government on this.

These nerds really have no idea who they're dealing with. The executive branch can categorize AI technology as equivalent to nuclear weapons technology.


>The executive branch can categorize AI technology as equivalent to nuclear weapons technology.

Theoretically, but this would run the risk of collapsing the US tech sector, which at this point is a significant part of the strength of the US economy, and thus making it likely that the Republicans will lose power in the next elections.


I don't view that as an additional new risk. Investors are already all-in on AI, despite being one geopolitical event away from apocalypse regarding Taiwan.


Please don't fulminate on HN. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


The "shouting fire in a crowded theater" line is one of the most misunderstood pieces of legal dicta in US history. It comes from a case that was overturned by Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969).

Under current First Amendment law, the government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless it is directed to inciting "imminent lawless action" and is "likely" to produce such action.

To illustrate how high this bar is: you can legally sell and wear a T-shirt that says "I heart killing [X group]". While many find that expression offensive or harmful, it is protected speech. This is because:

- It is not a true threat (it doesn’t target a specific individual with a credible intent to harm).

- It isn't incitement (it doesn't command a crowd to commit a crime immediately).

In the US, you don't need approval to express yourself. The default is that your speech is protected unless the government can prove it falls into a tiny handful of narrow, well-defined exceptions.


Sounds a hell of a lot like censorship to me.


I have a close male friend in their mid-thirties that has struggled dating since I've known him (~10 years). He is attractive, dresses well, goes to the gym, eats well, has a few hobbies, and isn't emotionally stunted nor suffer from any arrested development issues. My girlfriend thinks he might be cursed since we don't have any single friends to match-make him with.

He moved to a different city a few years ago and reported more hookups, but serious dating is just as bad. I'm starting to notice him becoming tired of it all, even though he hides it quite well.

Given it's not realistic to keep moving to different cities as it's financially and socially expensive to do so. What should I suggest?


Tell him that the option he wants is simply not available on the menu anymore.

He is free to chose some other options, just not that one.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Menu-Life-Without-Opposite-Sex/dp/B...


I'm excited to see what comes of OxCaml the next few years.


If my timelines are correct, the FSF ousted RMS before ChatGPT came out.


They actually re-appointed him to the board in 2021, also before ChatGPT came out: https://www.fsf.org/news/statement-of-fsf-board-on-election-...


ChatGPT came into the picture long after the open source issues we’re talking about were apparent. AI companies are making it even worse but solid advocacy in the 2010s or 2000s would’ve been helpful.


The FSF also ignored the SaaS revolution. They put out the AGPL but did not really market it or convert FSF projects to it.


I should probably ask what experience do you have writing hardware drivers for the Linux kernel, but it's pretty obvious the answer is: none. I actually burst out laughing reading your comment, it's ridiculous.

My anecdotal experience interviewing big tech engineers that used Rust reflects GP's hunch about this astonishing experience gap. Just this year, 4/4 candidates I interviewed couldn't give me the correct answer for what two bytes in base 2 represented in base 10. Not a single candidate asked me about the endianness of the system.

Now that Rust in the kernel doesn't have an "experimental" escape hatch, these motte-and-bailey arguments aren't going to work. Ultimately, I think this is a good thing for Rust in the kernel. Once all of the idiots and buffoons have been sufficiently derided and ousted from public discourse (deservedly so), we can finally begin having serious and productive technical discussions about how to make C and Rust interoperate in the kernel.


When you say "base 10", is that "10"-er written in big endian or small endian?

It's as if there's a convention of sorts to how we write numbers (regardless of base).

If you don't state endianness in your exercise, one should assume the convention is followed.


That makes no sense. The value of two bytes as a single number is strictly dependent on endianness, and there's no "convention" that can be assumed.


You're saying you believe every Linux driver actually is a glorified while loop?

I guess it makes sense you're having trouble hiring qualified candidates.


He's arguing most drivers are mostly event driven --- which is true, trivially.


Nowhere did he argue that. What he actually argued--poorly and offensively--is that it's "pretty obvious" that bronson has no experience writing Linux hardware drivers.


That's remarkable, since his comment says nothing about events.

Still, it sounds like you're saying that Linux drivers are more than glorified do loops spinning on IRQs, right? If so, then I guess we agree.


This news story was read by investors and leadership inside of Microsoft.

That wouldn't have happened if they hadn't derided whatever idiot decision makers thought it was acceptable in the first place.


Derision is legitimate way to change behavior when other avenues fail.

A reasonable person that's acting maliciously can be reasoned to stop their behavior.

An unreasonable person that's acting in good faith cannot be reasoned to stop their behavior because they are stupid.

If after attempts to reason with the unreasonable fail, it is not an insult or ad hominem attack to explain the person is acting stupidly.


This line of reasoning is genuinely stupid, it deserves to be derided and mocked.

You can draw a straight line between these "mistakes" and these people violating traffic laws in such a way that they kill other motorists abiding by all traffic laws.

By your reasoning, I can burn your house down and kill your family, and it's absolved by apologizing.

What you don't understand is suicidal empathy eventually corrects itself with extremely violent vigilantism. And when (not if) that happens, you'll be begging for the state to come in to restore order, but they will be unable to. The state has already ceded legitimacy by not performing their duties, and what you're left with are violent gangs and warlords.

Dark triad sociopaths view this as a way to cease power. What they miss is real power comes from groups of armed individuals, not from a ballot box.


> By your reasoning, I can burn your house down and kill your family, and it's absolved by apologizing.

Yes, "your drivers license doesn't expire when your work visa does" is exactly like "burning your house down and killing your family". This is a sane, logical thing to say, and reflects an expected level of adult maturity.


Not entirely sure comparing an administrative error to burning someone's house down (how do you even know they live in a house?) and killing their family lines up with the HN guidelines.


Making the same administrator error 17,000 times is not an accident.


Administrative error is when it happens once. Not 17e3 times!


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