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I've been fascinated by Bhutan ever since reading "Beyond the Sky and the Earth". I wish them the best, but with the exodus of young people it's difficult to see long term success. The population is tiny. Will future growth only stem from tourism?

Tourism is not really a growth sector. There are too many hotels already, with hoteliers complaining they can't get bookings at a decent price because there's too much competition undercutting them, and tour operators demanding lower prices than is sustainable.

Truthfully, the GMC is Bhutan's best bet at growth. The idea is to attract foreign talent who can train and educate locals, so that it can act as an attractor for youths, and a flywheel for prosperity in the country.


I wish I could say something smart such as “People/Organisations should host their own git servers“, but as someone who had the misfortune of doing that in the past I rather have a non-functional GitHub.


I've found Gitea to be pretty rock solid, at least for a small team.


Would even recommend Forgejo (the same project Codeberg also uses as the base for their service)


I'm curious to learn from your mistakes, can you please elaborate what went wrong?


I hear the twitter = public square analogy a lot but I fail to understand it. Here and on Twitter discussions take place. What is the difference?


One very obvious difference is that twitter does not purport to be a forum for any particular community or field of interest. So in that sense it's much more of a town square in that ppl can (or should be able to) tweet about anything.


Why would it ? On our end everything works fine. If you’re not one of the 400 companies, there's no difference


Yep. The vast majority of users don't follow these outages (aka don't browse forums like Hacker News or r/sysadmin), and thus aren't aware of them.

Many of these users are decision-makers who decide what tools to use, and will continue to use Atlassian out of inertia due to lots of existing documentation on the tool (this is compounded by not knowing about the outages, or not knowing the severity of the outages), and also because large, professional companies use their tools too.

I don't necessarily agree with the perspective to stay with it, but it uses a lot of political capital/innovation tokens/goodwill/etc. to change systems, when there are usually higher-priority things to do (than to get buy-in to switch).


Even those 400, especially Jira is crazy popular with a lot of scrum masters and the scrum crowd in general. I could see some of those 400 stick with Jira even after this shit show if only to avoid losing all their scrum masters.


Severe operational issues don’t give you pause?


"first they came for ..."


Poor taste, buddy. Comparing the Atlassian mess-up to the Holocaust diminishes the Holocaust.


um... the sentiment is universal it's not specific to that particularly awful history. Sorry if it triggered you, HN doesn't offer a delete button.

FYI my ancestors fled oppression on both sides and I'm well aware that it's a miracle I'm alive.

Again, one bad thing leading to another is a common human behavior, and the Holocaust is just an extreme example that I ABSOLUTELY did not intend whatsoever. You make this connection, not me.


If I'm then one making this connection, then it should be trivial for you to finish your sentence. "First they came for..." Who are the Jews in your analogy ? Who are the communists? the trade unionists? And who is the totalitarian regime?

Suggesting that Niemöller's poem is about "one bad thing leads to another" is like suggesting that Anne Frank's diary is about "sometimes girls have really bad days." I understand you didn't mean any offense to anyone. But that's not a license to be offensive, and then duck for cover.


>Jira Cloud is incredibly slow

I have to say it got better after they switched to AWS but Jira not working/being slow is still an inside joke in the office


As someone who uses Jira and BitBucket at work I wish they were more reliable. Switching to something like Azure DevOps is sadly not an option for us so we’re stuck there.


Azure DevOps is a dead end since Microsoft bought GitHub. You can look at ADO’s release notes. The quantity of work released has slowed right down.

I mean the output of one three-week sprint (that’s their cadence) was “we are turning some stuff off.”

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/devops/release-notes/...


Here’s their output from a different, recent sprint: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/devops/integrate/conc...

Looks like most of their sprints are adding things or fixing things, not removing things.



Nice to know. ADO was floating around the office as some large customers of us use it.

To be honest at this point I don’t see us ever switch away from BitBucket as our environment (non tech employees use SourceTree, bitbucket pipelines etc) is centered around it.


I think the article encapsulates the problem perfectly.

When I started to switch from Windows to Linux, I've constantly changed distros picking whatever I saw "cool" people in my online circle use. I switched between Ubuntu, Debian, Arch and it's 100% FLOSS siblings all the time, sometimes using a distro just for one or two days.

It is a stupid Endeavour as you have no time getting used to your environment and so you lack the skills required to solve any problems that occur.

What fixed my habit was actually having to use my laptop for university, where I ran Ubuntu, and later at work, where we used Fedora. It helped me get used to it and tailor it to my needs.

Recently, I've switched at home and work to MacOS ( couldn’t resist the new M1 chips). It fulfills my requirements and works like a charm.


I went with Ubuntu when I switched from Windows some time around "Dapper". Stuck with it until "Karmic" or something like that. I only switched to Arch because I was getting tired of the big upgrades, and not having the latest versions of things I needed for work.

This decision makes sense for me and for the laptop that I use daily as a developer. It doesn't make a lot of sense for a regular user, and even less for a server environment.

Is it really so complicated? If you have very specific needs, you'll know what to look for. If you're not that special - why not just go with something common until you see what limitations you can live with and which ones are deal-breakers?

I think a lot of "distro hopping" is also just being interested in the OS itself. I don't see the problem.


It is a stupid Endeavour

Installing and switching between a half dozen distros (plus a couple of BDSs and Open Solaris) when first learning to use *nix really taught me a lot about all kinds of different aspects and philosophies of the *nix world and getting all those distros to actually install and run gave me lots problem solving skills.

Now I've settled on Ubuntu, been using it basically exclusively for the past 10+ years (minus a short affair with Arch a few years ago) and have no plans on switching. But having that initial experience with lots of different OSs was very educational.


Quite interesting to see how our experiences differentiate as I never got the chance to really understand what I was doing or what is going on but maybe that depends on our different approaches when switching distros


It really is a matter of perspective. I ended up doing the same thing as the parent comment, switching to Linux after being fed up with Windows and MacOS. It took me a few tries to find a package manager that worked for me (and I certainly borked my fair share of systems in the first few months), but Linux just worked in ways that MacOS and Windows never really did for me. Software installed quickly and flawlessly. Dev tools like git, docker and make were no longer second-class experiences. My coreutils were up-to-date, out-of-the-box. I could test and compile stuff on my own system and reliably deploy it to the cloud without needing to account for different architectures, kernel breakage or ABI incongruity. Virtual machines and containers executed faster than any other system I had tried. Microsoft Edge wasn't begging me to leave it as default. I didn't get notifications about The New Safari.

It ultimately comes down to workload, I suppose. If you're a creative professional or build iPhone apps for a living, I doubt you'll enjoy your time on Linux very much. As someone who does neither of those things very often, Linux feels like home to me.


I think it also depends on which distros you choose. Installing 6 different Debian/Ubuntu flavours, might not teach you much. Installing Debian, Gentoo and OpenBSD will at least open you up to several different ways of solving the same problem.

I also think it really depends on what your end goal for doing it is. Do you just want to get to the point where you have a working dev environment as quickly as possible or do you want to learn about Operating Systems and hardware for its own sake. For me, at the time, getting NetBSD working on a 'no name' PowerPC dev board I bought off of eBay was a fun goal in it self.


As a long-time user of Ubuntu (and derivative distros) who has always wanted to checkout Arch, what made you get back to Ubuntu from your fling with Arch?


My first guess would have been Web development with Django but if that's a no you might want to give DevOps a try. Of course, it will include a lot of tooling and other technologies (nearly impossible to do it without knowing about Docker/Kubernetes) but people who can develop DevOps tooling are in high demand.

Last but not least you can look into automated testing. Not the most interesting job for many but Python is widely used there.


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