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I hate statements like this due to their imprecision and their contribution to making mathematics difficult to learn.

> Though they’re defined by just a few rules, groups help illuminate an astonishing range of mysteries.

An astute reader at this point will go look up the definition of groups and come away completely mystified how they illuminate anything (hint: they do not).

A better statement is that many things that illuminate a wide range of mysteries form groups. By themselves, the group laws regarding these things tell you very little. It's the various individual or collective behaviors of certain groups that illuminate these areas.


The people Bhutan kicked out were native to that place though and were born there and had identity documents and passports there.

All problems are important. You never know what might be useful.

Anything in type theory. Lean is fundamentally a strongly typed dependently typed programming language. Start with Haskell and keep going.

Chat bots will necessarily 'make stuff up' (i.e. get things wrong) due to the random sampling and the law of big numbers. I don't understand why I have to keep repeating this on a forum filled with technical and numerically inclined people.

I was not shilling for them, just trying to give context to a Twitter post, after I clicked through and learned about the company.

Unless you get to carry over unrealized capital losses , this taxation regime is highly regressive.

I would prefer they give a straight up tax refund as opposed to a credit you carry over.

The demonym of those from the Netherlands is 'Dutch'

I totally misread the title as Norway, guess I was thinking about the sovereign wealth fund.

How about just not inflating grades?

Educated people are the way they are due to a particular personality that they have. They are curious and self driven. Many educated people have no formal education. You cannot teach a personality.

That's not to say other personalities are less worthwhile... It's just that we have emphasized one kind of personality as the ultimate one and then are surprised that -- after maxing out opportunities for those already suited towards that personality -- a saturation point is reached and future effort has marginal gains.


What's wonderful about comprehensive universities is that there's a program that can excite the interest of almost every personality.

And even if that wasn't the case, education in general actually speaks to a variety of personalities: The self-motivated learner, the self-improver, the intellectual explorer, the goal-oriented achiever, the rules-based structure seeker.


Of course there is. You can just hire them and train them. Most positions don't require college degrees. Everything you need to know for most jobs you learned in high school. At most you need a certificate program of some kind.

Construction, a few trades… Help me, I've run out of ideas without resorting to "Walmart Greeter".

Most of those jobs went overseas a long time ago. Short of the couple I could think of, the rest of the jobs remaining that don't require some advanced education don't pay a "living wage".

I'd love to see the US have a vocational "track" beginning in high school again. But that also requires we have the jobs for them when they graduate.


If you've ever worked at a random Fortune 500 company and looked around the office at people whose pinned apps are "Outlook, Powerpoint, Excel", those are jobs that can easily be done if you're moderately smart and learn a few things on the job. You have a reasonably well-defined set of goals, projects, and meetings, and you just have to talk to other people and move numbers around in Excel, then put them into Powerpoint and set up meetings in Outlook to discuss. There are millions of these jobs, and you can get extremely senior once you just learn the business of your company (which would never be taught in college). You don't need a college degree for these. A friend of mine is a senior executive at a large insurance company and does just fine at their job with no degree. Given, they got into that job decades ago when degrees weren't required, and worked their way up, but the same could be done now if employers let people be hired based not on degree but on an apprenticeship or similar trial period.

Employers would let people be hired but any sort of employer based assessment opens the company up to accusations of discrimination. This was litigated. Many companies got in trouble decades ago. And then all companies turned to college degrees and the American consumer was fleeced for good

> Construction, a few trades… Help me, I've run out of ideas without resorting to "Walmart Greeter".

I don’t think you’re trying hard enough.

- bookkeeper

- billing (esp. medical)

- data entry

- admin assistant

- inventory management

- basic tax filing

- content manager (for websites and social media)

- scheduling

- basic account management

- tons of stuff in supply chain

I could go on…


Most office work. Finance. Insurance. Mortgage sales. Blue collar jobs. Inspection and compliance. Program management, project management, graphics design, marketing. A lot of software work that doesn't require proof based mathematics (most of it). Your lack of lateral thinking is not an argument.

Unless my kid was interested in a professorship or the hard sciences or a hard science aspect of engineering work or a specific certificate (architect), I would not encourage college. Seems like a waste of money making years. It can make sense if you're a first generation college person and you were not raised well off, but most people here are in the upper income brackets, so adopting the culture of the upper class is not really something they'd need to do


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