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Are you referring to the 60 days (from WARN act) to find another team before getting removed from the company? If so, yes, but imagine the difficulty of finding another team to take you while the company is actively shedding roles.


No, Google did not give people that chance last Jan. Even if it had been on the table, imagine 12,000 ppl looking for an internal move at once.


Right, there's few roles for everyone, and tbh I've been looking to switch teams since August and not too many really interesting positions were open.


What % of users do you think care about a desktop experience? I expect the vast majority of users would be mobile-only. I'm sure you can find relevant statistics about Twitters desktop vs mobile usage.


"Users" yes, but that's not why Twitter was "big" (in quotes because, by user base, Twitter wasn't big at all).

Twitter's cultural cachet was because you could link and embed Tweets. Whatever platform you're on, viewing things on Twitter "just works" if you have a URL. That means journalists can point to things on Twitter, post things on Twitter, and the normal mechanisms of internet virality mean they can spread through basically any medium (i.e. how many times are Twitter links shown on other platforms?)

It's also worth noting that "influencer" types don't - or didn't - use Twitter directly. They used various bits of API management software to curate their appearance.

Threads has none of that: without a web browser experience, you can't share and link things on Threads in other mediums. There's no possibility of embedded Threads posts being a thing. And that means, fundamentally, Threads can never actually pull sign-ups by organic virality - or pull views from it either. It's notable the big sign up wave happened right as it looked like Twitter was going to block viewing Tweets for users without an account - that was (correctly) interpreted as the final nail in the coffin (and was rolled back).


87.6% of Twitter active-seconds are mobile, according to Elon's most recent data.

Would've expected closer to 70/30 personally.


That data is biased by the small minority of super active users who spend 4-5 hours/day on Twitter.

The relevant number would be to condition on only the 20th to 80th percentile users (by time spent/day) and see their breakdown. I am going to bet that number is more biased towards desktop, while both the 0-20% (occasional users) and 80-100% percentiles will be mobile focused.

The other confounding effect is the bots and the pseudo-bots (humans operating many accounts). I don't know how they change these numbers.


And do you actually believe this statistic?

I don't know a single person who willingly prefers a limited, bogged-down experience of any product (social media or otherwise) over a full-fledged desktop client.


I don't think it's a matter of preference.

Of course I prefer doing all of my computing on my desktop computer. But I don't take my desktop computer with me to the grocery store. And I use Twitter to entertain myself when I'm waiting in line at the grocery store, for example. When I am at my desktop computer, I'm much less likely to be interested in using Twitter.

That said, one of many reasons I didn't bother creating a Threads account is precisely that reason: no desktop client. Unless forced, I won't use anything that is exclusively available on mobile devices.


It doesn't really matter whether you know them or not. They objectively make up the majority of internet users.

81% of Facebook users interact only by mobile phone: https://www.statista.com/statistics/377808/distribution-of-f...


I have mod rights on a general subreddit (a city), and I see that mobile is consistently 75-80% of the traffic. That seems consistent with the numbers above.


I think that’s a bit of a tech bubble. My non-tech family and friends all do the vast majority of their computing on mobile.


A lot of people just don't own a desktop, or laptop.


Most people don't take their laptop to the bathroom.


I know I gave up on it anyway without desktop. But what I really gave up on was lack of discovery on how to get my twitter network replicated. I was at least able to do that with Mastodon for all its UX sins.


Have you found a quick way to transfer all your subreddit subscriptions and saved posts?

I would prefer short-lived anon accounts but have been too lazy to write a script to transfer those myself.


I save the posts I really care about in my browser bookmarks or copy/paste the valuable contents to a note on my phone. For subs, if I don't resub then I wasn't really interested. Starting a new anon account is a good way to get rid of the cruft in your home feed.


I had the same experience using LaTeX. I manage my resume un Google Docs now


I thought it was clear the poster was talking about their daily life, and not commenting on world statistics.


> Shipping is still "free" but many items take 4 days (or more now).

I've had the opposite experience. Everything comes within 1 day. Some items even come within 12 hours (overnight shipping delivering at 7am)


Obviously we're talking about something more modern than SMS here.


The problem is none of the 'more modern' open alternatives to SMS actually seem any better.


How exactly RCS is not strictly better than SMS?


Turn that on its head. What does RCS bring to the table? RCS brings two types of features: those that carriers will try to monetize (file transfer, VoIP, visual voice mail) and those that seek to drive "customer engagement" (chatbots, carousels, branding, quick-reply suggestions, "rich" cards).

From the Wikipedia page:

  RCS Business Messaging (RBM) is the B2C (A2P in telecoms terminology) version of RCS.
  *This is supposed to be an answer to third-party messaging apps (or OTTs) absorbing 
  mobile operators' messaging traffic and associated revenues*. While RCS is designed to 
  win back Person-to-Person (P2P) traffic, RBM is intended to retain and grow this A2P 
  traffic. … RBM is expected to attract marketing and customer service spend from 
  enterprises, thanks to improved customer engagement and interactive features that 
  facilitate new use cases.  *This was the primary reason for the development of RCS by 
  the GSMA*. 
No. Thanks. As I said, I don't really care if Apple implements RCS support in their Message app. If they do it's just one more thing I'll disable.

My take is that carriers should be dumb pipes. Voice, SMS, and data routing and that's it. Part of the reason RCS is already fragmented is because the carriers are trying to monetize it, you can bet your ass they're going to continue to drag their feet with E2EE – which is why Google's stood up their own separate RCS infrastructure.


Even just fixing group chats alone is a big deal.


Didn't Google Talk, Google Chat, Google Hangouts, and Google Meet all support group chats? Didn't Google Talk even allow for federation?

The problem with RCS as a solution is that you're either going to rely on the carriers or Google and Apple to host infrastructure. Requiring Apple to implement support for Google (hosted) products is ridiculous as Apple already lists Google chat apps in their app store. Requiring Apple to host their own servers to interoperate with Google's services is also ridiculous because again Apple already provides software to interoperate with Google's chat services.

Requiring Apple to support RCS so their users can leverage carrier hosted RCS is also ridiculous because that's a fancy way of saying Apple should be required to monetize their users for the carriers' benefit. Per the Wired article linked to MMS was created solely to extract money from their users (or as Wired put it to "collect a fee every time anyone snaps a photo"). I'm sure most folks who are old enough remember when SMS (which literally consumes no additional bandwidth) was a paid feature, does everyone remember when MMS cost even more than a plain SMS?

RCS may not be a cash grab by Google, but they certainly haven't had any luck in getting the carriers to implement customer friendly features. Another lowest common denominator "standard" like RCS isn't an improvement at all, especially not in the face of the freely available, cross platform messaging apps.

What does RCS theoretically bring to the group chat table?

File transfers? Google's gonna mine them or carriers will charge exorbitant storage/transfer/viewing fees.

E2EE? Carriers don't, Google does.

Tapback? Meh.

Typing indicators? Really?

International communication? You're gonna pay…


> What does RCS theoretically bring to the group chat table?

Interoperability.


  Interoperability
How do you figure? Google and the carriers are implementing different feature sets.


In addition to having to implement E2EE on their own, Google's had to start paring back key RCS features like ads.

https://techcrunch.com/2022/06/04/google-disables-rcs-ads-in...


> their ad business is still raking it in

I haven't read any recent earnings statement, but curious how bad Apple's new privacy policies were for FB.


They nearly tripled their earnings from $10b~ to $28~ the past year, up from $5b in 2020. They've said the iOS changes may impact up to $10b~

Regardless of the expected loss, that overall increase and total billions in profit is not "dying" by any means.


No he just always wear suits because he likes the feeling of wearing one. His first episode on JRE (he's been on ~5 IIRC), he talks about it


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